tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36650952.post7435665160152061433..comments2024-03-27T10:29:06.518-04:00Comments on A Natural Scientist: On Balance And CatsJenny F. Scientisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07072624674603337551noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36650952.post-3722891974923979592012-07-04T23:50:46.003-04:002012-07-04T23:50:46.003-04:00I can tell you how I handle this as a manager- I t...I can tell you how I handle this as a manager- I take everyone at their word for how important/non-negotiable a non-work commitment is. I have a developer who would stop working for us if we tried to require him to work during Comic-Con. I myself once considered my yoga class non-negotiable, because it was what kept my repetitive strain injury from flaring up and sending me out of work on worker's comp... And on the flip side, while I greatly prefer to leave work on time due to day care pick up, my husband can cover for me in a pinch. So I will occasionally agree to stay for a late meeting. It is easier to get me to do that on a Wednesday than a Thursday, though, because swim lessons are on Thursdays and I know it sucks to try to do that with the toddler in tow. <br /><br />I've ranted about this on my blog a couple of times. I think we do ourselves a big disservice when we expect special treatment for parents. But that doesn't mean that I think parents should work ridiculous hours. I think no one should. It is actually counterproductive as long term long hours have been shown to be ineffective (also a favorite ranting subject of mine).Cloudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09317847285050447789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36650952.post-64409013452334167252012-07-04T16:53:13.480-04:002012-07-04T16:53:13.480-04:00Oh, I agree entirely: it's completely unfair t...Oh, I agree entirely: it's completely unfair that kids are a free pass for working less, and they shouldn't be, but... Everyone should work sane hours, and science needs more money and FEWER people and some better funding allocation and... who knows what.Jenny F. Scientist, PhDhttp://naturalscientist.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36650952.post-55655572524548551702012-07-04T13:47:13.541-04:002012-07-04T13:47:13.541-04:00I keep trying to be on both sides of this. That is...I keep trying to be on both sides of this. That is, I agree that children and other dependents are non-negotiable commitments. That is, any time management that is done needs to be done around the drop offs and pickups and home health care aid schedules. But I also want to say that one's choice or lack of choice (I mean infertility) in the area of procreation shouldn't be what determines whether one is compelled to work more for the same rewards. And similarly, the fact that one has dependents should not, ideally, jeopardize one's career trajectory. If one wants to work part-time or take a few years off, that's fine, that's one's own choice. But if one wants to keep working full time, but one's work situation defines full time as 90+ hours (hello, bench science insanity), and therefore pushes one out, that shit's not right. In case of science, I think we need more money in the system, so that competition is not as crazy and institutions can afford to expect less time and less productivity from PIs, who can then expect less from the people in their labs. I have no idea how to fix that in other areas. I know that my European friends find our paltry vacation days untenable, and our work hours insane. But I think our culture is steeped in a false sense of sleep deprivation as a valid yard stick for one's worth. And I have very little hope that this will shift significantly in the near future.Juliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09745262857388007041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36650952.post-11616302425778859382012-07-03T20:42:16.437-04:002012-07-03T20:42:16.437-04:00YOUR SPOUSE CAN MAKE HIS OWN DINNER? WOOOOW!
Than...YOUR SPOUSE CAN MAKE HIS OWN DINNER? WOOOOW!<br /><br />Thanks for including the other kinds of dependents--I think that's a very real and oft overlooked factor. I admit to being a lot less sympathetic to the needs of working parents before I was a working parent. Perhaps that's part of it. (Not to be all you just don't understand if you don't have babies, because lord does that sentiment piss me off...)<br /><br />I'm grateful I have a job where I am responsible for my own time management. I can't imagine being on someone's clock. I wish more people had this luxury.bunnyhttp://glumbunny.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36650952.post-42123973290772256372012-07-03T08:16:20.728-04:002012-07-03T08:16:20.728-04:00Great post! I've seen in my own life that it&#...Great post! I've seen in my own life that it's much easier to brush aside things like yoga and cats than my child. You just CAN'T (and hopefully don't want to) do it.Alyssahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01695509619557410413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36650952.post-18128364273468247072012-07-03T08:10:43.366-04:002012-07-03T08:10:43.366-04:00Good point, and well expressed! Though, it makes ...Good point, and well expressed! Though, it makes me think about automatic baby-feeders and just how that might work... Except, of course, the little darlings need human interaction during feeding to develop their brains, etc.<br />I think work-life balance is way out of whack for most of the country. DH was pointing out yesterday, that most well-paying jobs require more (sometimes much more) than 40 hours per week. Doctors, lawyers, academics all work 60 hours plus regularly. Dentists and radiologists are rare exceptions. Hunter-gatherers are supposed to work 4 hours per day to get their food and shelter needs met, then have the rest of the day to pursue unnecessary interests. I'm not saying we should all return to that life, but it is interesting to look at where we come from and where we currently are.Nicolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03276995787173932700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36650952.post-313074286140090022012-07-02T10:49:13.888-04:002012-07-02T10:49:13.888-04:00Yeah.
In fairness, there is some context that most...Yeah.<br />In fairness, there is some context that most (all?) of the people who were commenting are people I know from a job where traveling 4 days a week, every week, and working 70hr per week is totally normal. So one could argue that dependents or not, it's hard to have balance with that kind of schedule.<br /><br />But even so, I loved the work, so it was balanced enough for me, but the addition of kids threw that all off, because I can be gone from my spouse for a few days but not my infants (logistics, quality of interaction over the phone. Etc etc).Sarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11869813213951981071noreply@blogger.com